pipe, and once again we are covering the horse race. it's not about changing now again. courage isn't doing the right thing when you poll test and see that the rest of the country is now sick of donald trump. that's our job from the very beginning. from the very beginning, along with the republican party, we helped create this guy, and quite frankly, it makes me sick to my stomach to watch how we all want to get out front and condemn donald trump as if we had nothing to do with helping to create this monster in the first place. >> the biggest challenge i can give you in 30 seconds, what happens after this election is over? >> sadly, my sense, brian, is we'll return to business as usual. we beat our chest about doing the right thing to condemn him, about moving america in the right direction. and sadly, as so often is the case, on race, on politics, on sexism, on patriarchy, we return to a nation of business as usual. we've grown older but we've not grown wiser. we've grown older but we haven't grown up.